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fallon fox is undefeated in her first two mixed martial arts bouts. she also came out and announced she is trans gender. she revealed to sports illustrated she was born a man. earlier she told us why she
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chose to go public with the story. >> i didn't plan to come out. there was a reporter that contacted me. he was told rumors that i was transgender, the term that i like to use. i pretty much had no choice, because he was digging around, asking people about me. so if it was not for that, i would have preferred to keep my personal medical history to myself. because it is a matter about my personal medical history. and i don't think that anybody should have to reveal the personal medical history if they don't feel they want to. i think that some people have a tendency not to pay to science in general, which is the way that we find out about the world around us. it is just a thing that happens to human beings. but i think for the most part the reaction has been positive. it is just some people, some of society just doesn't get it yet. and this is what we're trying to do is inform people and let them know about transgender athletes. >> well, fox is the first
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transgender athlete in the growing sport of mixed martial arts. i'm don lemon at the scene at atlanta headquarters. i'll see you back here in an hour, "the situation room" the wolf blitzer begins right now. president obama is getting ready for his next get-together with the republicans. is his term offensive working? >> north korea's leader cheered by his military after a new league of nuclear threats. now we may have a new weapon. and a ban on sugary drinks could be days away? and coffee drinkers are confused. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and from around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room".
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president obama takes his new outreach campaign to capitol hill this week. he is trying to improve his relationship with republicans by offering frank talk and a good meal. our chief correspondent, what an amazing week, a real turn around as far as the president's charm offensive is concerned. what is going on? >> that is right, wolf, it has almost been washington in black and white this week, a flashback to a bygone era, where democrats and republicans sat down together and tried to solve the problems of the nation. the president is doing just that. inviting the republicans out to dinner at a fancy hotel here in washington earlier this week. and then meeting with an old campaign rival, the full vice presidential candidate, paul ryan for lunch on thursday. he heads up to the hill this week to do more of the same with the republican and democratic lawmakers from both the house and senate. and so he will be doing more of
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this, all in an effort to bring back some talks for reaching a kind of grand bargain. the sort of grand bargain on the deficit that he failed to reach with house speaker john boehner back in 2011. and just an interesting thing to note, wolf, in addition to all of this, the president and first lady apparently defined with bill and hillary clinton on the evening of march the first. this was first reported by politico, but this dinner apparently happened over here at the white house. and we're trying to press the white house for more details on all of this. but apparently, this is all a part of the president's almost sort of a reset button in term his of his relations with republicans in washington. >> well, the reaction has been upbeat, i assume the white house is pleased, the republicans said nice things, paul ryan said it was a good lunch over at the white house. but the key question is, will this result in a new deal? >> reporter: and the white house
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says they're cautious and realistic about it. white house press secretary jay carney said earlier this week, they are not naive about what is going on here. obviously, there are two different feelings in terms of how to get the country back on the right track, in terms of getting this economy really going. they are feeling good about this jobs report that came out on friday. but almost right away, there was a reaction from republicans up on capitol hill saying what is holding back the economy is the crushing deficits. and at the same time, they're saying that the white house is just not going to get its way when it comes to raising taxes. and that is chof course, very mh a part of the white house's plan to get a reduction deficit. they would like to see the loopholes reformed in a way to help the government. so far the republicans are not having it. it will take more than a charm offensive. >> a few baby steps, they have a lot of work to do.
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thank you very much. let's go to clip, more on the president's charm offensive. the surge also, as senator rand paul's star power. our chief correspondent dana bash is here. amazing week on capitol hill. but what is the fallout so far from republicans and democrats to this charm offensive? >> well, obviously, for republicans this is what matters most. and what i'm hearing from republican senators, i talked to several of them who had dinner with the president. and they say what was really striking was that at the end of the -- at the end of the evening they both realized that there is -- a genuine sincerity in the other's arguments. that they really just have different philosophies. and you know, it seems so obvious that they would have this kind of meal and interaction. because it is how you and i interact, how others do, it took so long. they were very cautious about
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the whole idea it would produce a grand bargain and a great moment that would matter when it comes to the deficit. but it is baby steps, baby steps, that a lot of people say took a very long time. >> saw a lot of democrats and republicans hoped there would be a grand bargain before early july, august, before the nation's debt ceiling has to be raised. that is an informal deadline, if you will, looks like the government won't have to shut down. they don't necessarily have to worry about it. all of a sudden, senator rand paul of kentucky, emerging as a star because of the old fashioned filibuster. >> it was remarkable, the fact he was on the floor for almost 13 hours, he didn't sit down, he wouldn't, took a nature call, that ended the filibuster after midnight. there were so many different ripple effects from this. one is, i know you talked to some democrats that he was getting praise from liberals. it really showed how strange d
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bedfellows are when you look at the civil liberties and the need to be aggressive. he got one democrat to go on the floor with him. but really got praise from the a-type democrats sticking up for him. on his own side, he was beaten up by the wall street editorial page, and of course, john mccain, lindsey graham, more hawkish republicans who say he did a disservice to the country by questioning the idea of using what they call necessary tactics. >> and rand paul said at the end of this week, he is seriously running for the republican presidential nomination in 2016. >> not a big surprise, he has hinted that in more ways than one to me and others, i'm sure to you, as well. it was pretty obvious as you saw him out on the campaign trail with his father who ran for president this past election cycle. but he was wanting to be the
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next paul to run. >> it is one thing to hint, one thing to say. he is a blunt guy, doesn't hold back. all right, dana, very good work this week. thank you very much. and a dramatic turn this week, osama bin laden's son-in-law appearing in a federal court this week in new york, very close to where al-qaeda brought down the world trade center towers. sulaiman abu ghaith pled guilty to a plot to kill americans. he was captured abroad. and the decision to take him to new york versus the facility in guantanamo bay is raising controversy. joining us, peter bergen, and jeff toobin, first, what do we know about sulaiman abu ghaith? >> well, the indictment against him, he is described as a spokesperson. and one thing the government has to do as the case proceeds to trial is show that he actually
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advanced a conspiracy to kill americans. didn't just advocate or just give rhetorical support. the current charges against him are pretty minimal against him on that score. although the government will have many months to spell out the case against him. >> he was the one that appeared in videos in 2001 in september, 2001, warning the west, warning muslims stay away from the united states. stay away from those high rise buildings, don't get on planes. we're coming after you. at that time he was selected, i assume, by osama bin laden to be the spokesperson? >> yeah, i mean, he married osama bin laden's daughter. i mean, i second what jeff said. i mean, the indictment against this guy is incredibly thin. and i don't think that is surprising. because having followed him on and off over the last ten years or so. this was a guy who popped up on a lot of those propaganda
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videotapes that you mentioned, wolf, and then basically disappeared. he was living under house arrest in iran, basically sort of on ice, not able to really do anything. he was not included into the 9/11 attacks before they happened. or included into the tapes before they were discovered. he is sort of a nonentity. and i think one of the reasons that he has gone to new york is conspiracy is not necessarily a war crime, of the type that would be tried in guantanamo. and courts in new york have 100% conviction rates on these types of terrorism charges. whereas a trial in guantanamo is a very uncertain effect. over 1% of the people there have been successfully convicted. >> listen to senator lindsey graham. he himself is an attorney. he is very much opposed to the decision to send him to new york. he thought this was an enemy combatant who by longed in
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guantanamo bay before a military tribunal. >> to the administration, why did you not send this person to guantanamo bay to be held as an enemy combatant for intelligence-gathering purposes. i have been firm against torture, but i do believe that guantanamo bay is a secure military facility that provides this country a great asset. and we have received a lot of information from guantanamo bay detainees. >> you remember, when there was the trial eventually reversed. what do you think about the pros and cons, legally speaking, either sending him to guantanamo bay or new york? >> well, it is true there is a major difference between the two in terms of interrogation. in a criminal court where he is now, he will receive a lawyer who will surely say stop talking
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to prosecutors, don't say anything. in guantanamo, there will be more flexibility to interrogate him. but the difference between the two is that the federal government has been very successful in getting convictions and life sentences in these cases brought in manhattan. and guantanamo has been a legal morass. so if you want to see this guy locked up securely for life, new york is probably a better bet than cuba. >> the other argument against sending him to new york, jeffrey, you can give us perspective on this. actually, let me let peter weigh in. the notion that once there is a trial, let's say he pleads not guilty. there is going to be a long trial, there will be witnesses, his attorney could call witnesses. this could be a propaganda bonanza for al-qaeda against the united states. what do you make of that argument? >> well, lots of people from al-qaeda have been put on trial in new york, even before 9/11.
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and that was never the case. i think it is a red herring trotted out to use a mixed metaphor, routinely, and this could be a great propaganda coup for al-qaeda. and when they get put in the super max prison, they're going to be turned into martyrs, none of that every happens. >> thank you very much, we'll continue this conversation in the weeks coming up. coming up, north korea threatening a nuclear attack against the united states. and may have a dangerous new weapon. so what is the new leader up to? and criminals reaching you through your cell phone? thousands of people have already been scammed. information to let you protect yourself. coming up. ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha!
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of them. >> i knew i couldn't be that lucky. >> reporter: the ftc is cracking down, charging 29 individuals and companies from around the u.s. with sending more than 180 million unwanted text messages. first, spam text messages are illegal. and they say these so-called gift cards are anything but free. if you actually click on the link you have to keep putting in more and more personal information. >> there are 13 different offers they're required to complete, supposedly to just receive the gift card. the offers they're presented with include offers to apply for credit, offers to sign up for a free trial offer for various products. at the end of the day after they complete all the 13 steps they're oftentimes then presented with something that says now, find three more people who will fill out this information. >> reporter: according to a study, 60% of consumers say they received a spam message in the last year. blocking the text message is not
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so easy. >> the telephone companies have a method to attempt to block the spam text message, but you need to know the number you want to block. and the problem with these scams is that the numbers change so regularly. >> reporter: so what should you do if you receive one of these text messages? well, the ftc says forward it to your carrier by typing in 7726, or spam. and what about the promise of the free gift card. when you had your people go through the process did they end up with a gift card? >> none of them received a gift card. >> reporter: they're offering plans from major retailers, like walmart and target. the ftc says these companies have nothing to do with the scams. the folks behind it are individuals and marketing companies trying to gather your personality information. the ftc is trying to get companies to put a stop to it and want the companies to reimburse consumers who may have lost money on the spam offers.
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if you live in new york or just if you're visiting, your coffee order may soon get a bit more complicated. it is all part of mayor bloomberg's ban on sugary drinks, it all takes place on tuesday, complying with it is not as easy as you think. we'll explain what is going on. >> reporter: well, wolf, coffee orders are supposed to be simple. here is what we know, latte s won't change because they have milk, but coffee drinks, at
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least one coffee chain is bracing their customers. we found many surprised to find out the extent of ban. along with the coffee, a side of new rules. they're explaining how new regulations spill over into the coffee business. part of the ban on super sized sugary drinks that goes into effect tuesday, part of the city effort to fight obesity. to comply, dunkin donuts will no longer put sugar in your drink. >> i didn't even know it was coffee until now. >> it is annoying, i believe it is unnecessary. there are so many other things to worry about in the city. >> reporter: the city is not banning restaurants from putting sugar in the coffee. the department of health says per barista, the amount is one spoon for coffee.
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but dunkin donuts wants to cut down on confusion. mcdonalds says it will tell customers to add their own sugar for coffee up to 16 ounces. both places say they're prepping the workers to be ready. at restaurants, this is 20 ounces. this one is still okay. 12 ounces and customers can order as many as they want. but restaurants like this one that prides itself on texas sized servings, it makes a difference. eric levine is the director of this organization. >> we'll stop when the law says we have to. right now we're in a limbo, and allowed by city law to hold off until june. >> reporter: the city will not enforce the laws for three months, until restaurants adjust. they're looking at lawsuits possibly filed by beverage companies and restaurants to try to stop them on the ban on super
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sized drinks. he estimates the changes will cost his business tens of thousands of dollars, lots of headaches. >> lots of headaches, digital signs, billboards, websites, information training, computers, everything. >> now, another big company that is holding off making changes right now was starbucks. it says there are a few gray areas of sorting through. they are using the city's three-month evaluation period to see the type of changes they need to make to be in compliance. so wolf, the ventes are safe for now. >> appreciate it very much, mary. and new talking and defiance by north korea after the new tests. and now the united nations is pushing back. we'll speak about all of this and more to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice. go faster! no! stop...stop...
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. north korea, kim jong-un welcomed the troops at the front line with south korea, the
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communist regime unveiled new threats, including a possible nuclear attack. the u.n. security council pushed back by adopting sanctions. >> reporter: wolf, tensions remain high here on the korean peninsula, following days of aggressive rhetoric from north korea that says it is ready for war. the rogue state, which made the extraordinary threat of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the united states says it is still willing to nullify the armistice agreement that ended the korean war back in 1953. now once they do that, they begin the exercises which start next week. now no one really knows what it means but there are fears that there could be provocations from pyongyang. this comes in the wake of u.n. sanctions that were voted unanimously by the security
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council. and with china's support it sends a very strong message that they're also fed up with north korea's belligerent behavior. north korea says they're on high alert and ready for any attack. >> and ambassador susan rice is joining us from the united nations, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, wolf. >> what do you make of north korea's threat now to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against south korea and the united states if the latest u.n. sanctions just approved go into effect? >> well, they will go into effect today, wolf, because today we unanimously passed another round of strong sanctions against north korea because of their nuclear tests. and these sanctions will make it very difficult for north korea to finance and procure materials for and technology for the nuclear and ballistic nuclear
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programs. we've heard these sorts of threats from north korea before. and frankly they are not going to achieve anything. the better course for north korea would be to recognize that it is isolated internationally. the entire international community is united in its opposition to the nuclear program and behind the sanctions. and north korea ought to instead, heed president obama's call to return to the path of peace, and to uphold the international obligations. but the past record suggests that we may see more provocation. >> well, provocation is one thing, but do they actually have a capability of striking the united states right now? >> well, wolf, i'm not going to get into the sensitive discussion of the technical capabilities. but the united states has the ability to defend itself against any north korean ballistic missile attack. i think north korea ought to think carefully about any
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provocations, refrain from those and recognize that the path it is on is leading to the greater impoverishment of its people. even china has had a belly full of north korea and is more frustrated than i have seen them in many years. >> because the chinese, the issue of co-sponsoring, that is a huge deal, the main sponsor, the supporter of the north korean regime. >> well, china and the united states negotiated this resolution over the last few weeks. it contained provisions that china had been reluctant to contemplate. and now given the latest in the series of provocations and the fact that north korea is picture action that threatens china's peace and stability, as well as that of the larger international community, they too, be agreed it was time for much tougher
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action. >> as you know, there are nearly 30,000 u.s. troops along the dem de demilitarized zone, facing a potential million troops on the other side with heavy artillery. are they going on high alert as a result of these threats coming from north korea right now? >> well, i can't comment on the alert status of our forces. but i can tell you we are always vigilant, and prepared in the coming days. we'll be in the process of a military exercise with south korea, which is something we do regularly. and that also is the reason for our particular vigilance about what may be going on. >> dennis rodman visited north korea and actually spent two days with kim jong-un, as far as we know the first american to actually meet the young korean
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leader. and he came back and said this. >> one thing, he asked me to give obama something to say, and do one thing, he wants obama to do one thing, call him. >> he wants a call from president obama? >> that is right, he told me that, he said if you can, dennis, i don't want to do war. i don't want to do war. he said that to me. >> as you remember, going back to the campaign in 2007, 2008, you were a key adviser to the then candidate for the democratic presidential nomination. he left over the possibility, he said he is ready to talk without pre-conditions with any of these leaders around the world, including these totalitarian regimes. do you think that this dennis rodman proposal is something the president should pick up and call kim jong-un? >> i don't see the president picking up the phone and calling kim jong-un any time. but the united states has been open to a negotiated settlement, and open to the resumption of the six-party talks, which the
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resolution today reaffirmed, which is our preferred means of insuring that the korean peninsula is in fact denuclearized. >> a year or so ago, you were in "the situation room." i asked you to speak directly to assad, the syrian leader. and you did, and you said this, i'll play the clip. >> i would say the united states stands with the people of syria. fully in their aspirations for peace, for democracy and for a brighter future. your days are numbered and it is time and past time for you to transfer power, responsibly and peacefully. the longer you hang on the more damage you do yourself, your family, your interests, and indeed, your country. >> all right, we're seeing it on cnn international, as well. they're probably watching it in damascus. do you want to speak to the syrian leader once again right now? >> well, wolf, i think the
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message that the united states has conveyed and that i delivered last year applies this year. the fact is that unfortunately, tragically, this war has intensi intensified. bashar al-assad has used ever more deadly attacks against his own people, including scud missiles, of all things. and the country has become increasingly fragmented. the rebels are gaining territory and holding territory. the region is at greater risk. and assad can't last. and there is no question about that. the only question is how much destruction he will reap before he goes. >> are you still confident his days are numbered? >> yes. >> ambassador rice, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you as always, wolf. in the middle of these new threats by north korea there is evidence out there right now that kim jong-un may be testing a dangerous new weapon. let's bring in our correspondent, barbara star, who has been reporting on it. what do we know, barbara?
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>> well, there is evidence if you thought you were worried about the new long-range missiles, there is a worry that they're developing a new long-range missile that could potentially hit the united states. but here is why this one is such a concern. it can be launched off a road mobile launcher. it has been seen in the military parade. what we're talking about is this missile sits basically on top of a truck that the north koreans can drive around the countryside. hide it from u.s. satellites ov overhead, move it around very quickly and launch it before u.s. intelligence could be able to pick up any signs that its on the move. you combine this mobile capability with their recent nuclear tests, where they said they had developed some miniaturize did it together, you
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have the worst capable missile that the north koreans could fire that the u.s. may not be able to detect, wolf? >> lots of tension in the korean peninsula, barbara, thank you. and falling to the lowest level since 2008, just ahead. and president obama's next get-together with the republicans. we'll talk about that, what it could mean as far as charm offensive is concerned. lots to discuss, stand by. ñe a
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. the latest employment numbers show the job rate fell to 7.7%, the lowest since 2008. and the economy added 236,000 jobs since february, much more
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than the previous months. president obama is reaching out to republicans, including a high profile dinner with some key republicans. joining us now, ron bronstein, and candy crowly. the numbers are good, political numbers for the president. does it help strength his bargaining position, going into the next few months, a grand type bargain negotiation? >> you know, i actually don't think so. i am not sure, i can articulate why. but i think that these are better numbers than we've seen what? in four years, at least in terms of the unemployment rate. but still, most economists say it is still kind of ah, i don't think it is a big thing, look, it is great. everybody can say this is great. but what they're talking about now is the debt and deficit.
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and insofar as you're bringing more money into the treasury, that is great, but i don't know if it is strengthening the president's hand. >> and the people who actually got a job, that is very, very good news. but what do you make of the impact? i think there will be very serious negotiations. >> by historic standards, as candy says, this may be the upper end, but not what we've seen in previous recoveries, but contemporary standards this is very good. and it does give the president one argument here which is that there is a view among some economists that the uncertainty in washington is really one of the last big barriers from preventing the economy from moving up a gear, at least not the type of gear in the '90s. but when you get good economic news, it is an opportunity to say if we can provide more certainty, not going through these confrontations month after month, but set it on a long-term
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path, maybe it would have some positives. >> and raising the debt ceiling, before july and august, if they don't that would end a very uncertain message to business operators who want to hire a lot of people. >> hard to believe we can go through that again, after 2008 and 2011. and not inconceivable. you have the situation where neither party has fully adjusted to the reality they are here at least for two years. and probably giving the dynamics for sharing power, you know, republicans face the reality the thing they want most, the thing to control the government on entitlements, with president obama they won't get that without accepting more revenue. and of course, the president has to be serious from the other end about finding a way to kind of move forward on the entitlement end. right now, they're find iing it easier to fight than switch. >> the good news is that words are porous, and revenue doesn't have to mean an increase in tax rates so they have to find some
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way to make it palatable to republicans. and when you talk about cuts and entitlements, they're saying there is a way to do that they can find their way around this if they want to. but nobody is going to get there, for precisely what ron just said. >> and listen to speaker boehner reacting to this charm offense. >> this week, we've gone 180, now after being in office for over four years, he is actually going to sit down and talk to members. i think it is a sign, a hopeful sign, and i'm hopeful that something will come out of it. but, if the president continues to insist on tax hikes i don't think we're going to get very far. >> if the president is going to insist -- >> the president is going to insist on raising tax revenue, whether you do it through eliminating loopholes or deductions, exemptions. if he says he is not going to raise rates, he wants the buffet
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rule to go into effect, which would raise rates. the issue of tax cuts -- >> and entitlement cuts, we have been so focused on tax increases or increased revenue we really haven't gotten to the big fight, which is about where, and how to cut entitlements and age brackets, all that sort of thing. i think what to me is brilliant about the charm offensive about this particular moment, is if the president can get a long-term deal out of this, then he is on his way to that kind of transformational presidency that he wanted. if he doesn't, he can say i tried everything. i had them to dinner, i talked to them on the phone. they still wouldn't deal with me. so what i really need is a democratic house. >> he also was reported by "the washington post" a week ago to be the major concern, the democrat who is winning the majority of the house of representatives in 2014, his last two years, he would have democrats in the majority of the
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house and senate. and then he could get his way. what do you make of it? >> well, first of all, very difficult to do. the democratic coalition so dependent on the younger, and the minorities. the democrats, if they're going to take back the house any time soon it will much more likely be 2016 when their voters tend to come out in more numbers. i don't think charm and leverage will get you that far. what you have, though, is a convergent of interest, ultimately, neither party can get very much of what they want out of the budget talks without coming together on a type of agreement. the only alternative is waiting, the republicans waiting until after the presidency, if that is the strategy you have the risk in 2016, you may not be controlling the house after that so really, what is the alternative for the two sides after that? other than making a deal, or a
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it's a relationship that should make any politician here in washington stop and take
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note. two former presidents, one a republican george hw bush, the other a democrat, bill clinton. now so close they almost seem like family. >> thank you all. >> they were one-time rivals. >> my biggest problem with governor clinton is he's on one side of the issue on one day and the other the next day and we can't let the white house turn into the waffle house. >> now best of friends. a political odd couple doing good around the world. their rep the subject of several newly-published letters by george h.w. bush. >> may all democrats forgive me. i love george bush. i do. >> i so appreciated your words about our relationship, about our friendship, bush wrote to clinton after a 2006 award ceremony. it was from r your heart. i hope you know i feel the same way. >> they have become really great friends. in fact, almost like family. that's part of a jealousy
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problem for the rest of the bush kids. they think they have this other brother named bill clinton. >> until you've been on the ground and see it, it's hard to realize the scope of the challenge that lies ahead. >> they first came together publicly after the 2005 tsunami in asia and traveled together over the years. here's what bush wrote to columnist hugh sidy. he has opinions on everything, no matter what. during that tsunami relief trip, bush like many others before him would be confronted by clinton's legendary problem staying on schedule. i heard bill clinton had his own ti time. clinton standard time. e he does. i on the other hand am compulsively on time. and two other attributes bush immediately noticed, both clinton's energy -- >> you should have seen him going town to town, country to country. he killed me. >> and love of talking.
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i soon realized as the trip got underway if we got in a bind for things to say or answers to be given to questions, it was reassuring to know that he was da man. >> president clinton is a phenomenal talker. they are a perfect couple because president bush would listen and clinton would talk and be the straight person for the jokes. >> bush could try for a laugh from clinton. writing to him after clinton nodded off at a martin luther king day sermon. i could feel your pain, bush wrote, invoking his catch phrase. identify been there myself, more than once. it physically hurt as i tried to keep my eyes open. two plolitical opposites now sharing the common bond of the presidency and friendship. the bush letters just released this week. coming up, it's the ultimate cliff hanger. a woman too terrified to jump gets unexpected help from her
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